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Although I was only a three-year RAF member I have many fond memories of that time and friendships which lasted over sixty years. When training at Weeton was completed I was posted off to 2nd.TAF for the remainder of my time. Firstly I went to RAF Wunstorf which played a leading part in the Berlin Airlift when the Russians closed all roads into the city from West Germany. That posting was interesting but fairly unexciting except for the time when five of us were detached to the Luftwaffe at Fassberg (previous RAF Fassberg) with snow-clearing equipment prior to the arrival of HRH Duke of Edinburgh. The snow never arrived, HRH didn't even know we were there but we had a ball with our counterparts in the Luftwaffe, and that is another story !

When Wunstorf started handover to the Luftwaffe I applied for transfer to No.398 MU at Duren and that proved to be an excellent choice. Duren was the biggest bomb and munitions dump in Western Europe at that time and it also had a mobile gas producing unit which supplied not only all the flying stations in 2TAF ( later changed to RAF Germany)  but indeed any station which had a gas requirement. At that time I can remember at least 15 flying stations alone !!  It also even occasionally produced trips into Italy and France.

Duren had only a few hundred personnel and it operated more like a transport depot than an RAF base, Certainly no 'Bull' 

I am attempting to attach a few photos from both Wunstorf and Duren. Hope you can get them to open and find them of some interest.

Cheers, Bill (Jock) Glover.

 

SAC Bill (Jock) Glover with Faun south of Schleswig

 

Mercedes tipper, Wunstorf

 

The fleet of Fauns at RAF Duren, 398 MU

 

Heading for French Air Force base, Cognac with supplies for Red Arrows

 

Ambulances outside RAF Wunstorf Sick Quarters

 

Outside quarters at Duren

 

Self with Brian Butterworth and Ron Whiting at Duren

 

Bill Glover, Dereck Blyth, 1958

 

Self with Basil Spedding

 

Bike enthusiasts Mick Lovern Bill Glover and Pete Cresswell

 

Rebuilding the NSU Quickly (which cost £5)

 

Crossing on the rail causeway to the Island of Sylt

 

YMCA Windmill on Cologne - Berlin autobahn

Cognac Town Centre

In wine and Cognac country near Bordeaux

     

 

Hi Ian,

I’ve recently scanned some transparencies relating to my National Service which might be of interest. They relate to a detachment to West Africa in 1961. All taken at the Armed Forces Beach in Accra Ghana. We were a group of MTD drawn from various units so I can only remember one name. The chap with the local lad is Bill Askew, but he doesn’t seem to be on the site.

Regards,

David Gardner

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Bill Askew Accra
Nov 1961

Liz Hall sent in these images from her late Father's (Ivor (Taff) Jones) albums.

 

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Hi Ian,

A friend of my wife's cousin told me of your website which he discovered recently when he was looking for details to authenticate his work building scale models of RAF vehicles namely, AEC refuelling tankers.

It was the first time we had met, when he told me about his hobby I said that I had served in the RAF and drove an AEC tanker; that was when he gave me your website address.

At the age of seventeen I volunteered for regular service with the RAF in August 1952 doing four years.

After first going to RAF Cardington to sign-on then Bridgnorth for basic training I was sent to RAF Weeton for twelve weeks driver's training then posted to RAF Kabrit located on the south of the Great Bitter Lake, Suez Canal Zone where I served with number 13 PR Squadron from February 1953 to August 1955 driving an AEC refuelling tanker registration number 22AD74, the squadron flew Gloster Meteors Mk. 10's and a Mk. 7 two-seater trainer.

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After my dis-embarkation leave I was posted to RAF Middle Wallop in Hampshire where I drove a Bedford QLC refuelling tanker working with JEHU (Joint Experimental Helicopter Unit) which trained RASC personnel to fly Bristol Sycamore Helicopters; I came out in August 1956.

My service number was 4106634, rank: LAC. Although I was known as Gary I was also nick-named "Pixie" as I was a Cornishman, this stuck with me throughout my entire service although, only at Middle Wallop when another airman (Driver) was posted there after serving with me in Egypt. When he arrived on the station he told someone how he had served in the Canal Zone as a Tanker Driver and consequently, was told about me having been there and that I came from Cornwall to which he asked "Is he short and called 'Pixie'?" needless to say, this is how the nick-name lasted for the rest of my service!!

I joined the RAF because I wanted to fly; fortunately, the highlight of my service was a two-and-a-half flight in the Squadron's Mk 7 where we flew at 30 thousand feet and did aerobatics not unlike the Red Arrows. The down side, although I signed on for four years regular service and one and a half PAID reserve, by the time my service had finished the MOD did away with the "PAID" but kept the eighteen months reserve..I wonder if they would be able to do this today?

I have attached two files showing my AEC the man sitting in the one full length photo is my old school mate; he worked in the MT section as a Fitter but as he could not drive he did not like the fact that a diver had to get out of bed in the middle of the night to drive him around when he was detailed to check the station's searchlights at Kabrit; so he asked me to teach him to drive which I did when off-duty with my AEC. When I thought he was ready to take his driving test I told him to stop on an up-hill gradient, then propped a matchstick against the nearside rear wheel and told him to pull away, he did this without breaking the matchstick, bearing in mind that the AEC ratchet hand break had to be "slammed-off "; to quoin a phrase, he did very well..he passed first time!

Kind regards,

Gary James


I love to see Queen Mary photos, this was one of my loads once. I was 20 when I took this from Andover to Kemble. The wings and tail-planes were taken to Colerne first, then I took the fuselage to Kemble, and then from Colerne to Kemble with the wings and tail-planes.

David Hunt

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The R.A.F. Welfare Bus Service was a project started (1946-ish) by H.Q. 205 Group, (Transport Command, to run off-duty people to off-camp relaxation areas.

The service began around 1946, with a fleet of converted Chevrolet troopers, working out of a hangar on R.A.F. Abyad. The Chevs were replaced over time with Dodge troopers - converted into 'buses by ditching the canvas tilt and its hoops, replacing with a wooden passenger cover and replacing the benches with forward-facing individual seats. Oh, and finishing in fleet colours, royal blue below, white above.

In mid-1953 the R.A.F.W.B.S. guv'nor, Flt.Lt. A.J. Putt, (D.S.O., D.F.C.) learned of a cache of buckshee Dodge spares at R.A.F. el Firdan, and organised with 109 M.U. M.T. to collect them. I didn't go on the trip, so sadly I only have these few pictures, which I took of the unloading, at the 'bus service hangar.

I've also included;

"109 Water Bowser" - to show one use of the tilt-hoops - surrounding our garden of desert sand. A 109 M.U. Bowser is delivering "sweet water"- in our day, liquid s**t.

"Assorted RAFWBS" - included because the guy posing as driver in the Morris coach is also driving the crane in "Dodge Engine".

"R.A.F.W.B.S. drivers, conductors and mechanics were local civilians, managed by a small R.A.F. staff, hence "posing". He could have driven it with one eye open, but wasn't one of ours.

"Bedford by Canal Road" - no idea which unit owned this vehicle. I just happened to be there.

"Trinder + CABS". See below.

The bus service was strictly a P.S.I. type operation, separate from the R.A.F. and run like a private company, even to having its own books of account. The army ran a similar service - the Canal Army Bus Service (CABS for short). They were a great gang, as witness "Trinder + CABS".

John Grant

 

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109 Q.M. at
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109 Water Bowser

 

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Assorted RAFWBS

 

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109 MU 5 Ton Crane

 

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As 109 M.U.'s M.T. section reduced during the "re-deployment" (1955-ish), the Welfare Bus Service quit its hangar, and moved into one of the M.T. section's old workshops.

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RAF Weeton, looking towards Blackpool from the east, 1946.

I know Weeton was No 8 School of Technical Training, but cannot remember the No of the Recruit training School.

Cheers one and all.

Dave Bale 

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Can anyone identify this vehicle, Town patrol Sylt 1950's ?

Tom Padgett

Tom, The vehicle is a Tempo Matador,  see this link

Ted Angus

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